{ "guild": { "id": "1361349522684510449", "name": "wafer.space Community", "iconUrl": "2026-08_media/fb143eaa45770cbb40493d09b625e98b-09FD1.png" }, "channel": { "id": "1534999803979632691", "type": "GuildPublicThread", "categoryId": "1409660288822673408", "category": "⁉️-questions", "name": "Metal- and Module Selection for Run3", "topic": null }, "dateRange": { "after": "2026-07-31T23:59:59.999+00:00", "before": "2026-09-01T00:00:00+00:00" }, "exportedAt": "2026-08-11T06:51:40.9090567+00:00", "messages": [ { "id": "1534999803979632691", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-06T19:01:12.186+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Is the exact metal code and module selection for run 3 documented anywhere?\n\nOn the Crowd Supply page, I can only find the code `1P5M26ML`, so 5 metal layers, but I can't find any reference to `26ML` anywhere in the PDK.\n\nFrom my understanding, all of the following modules must be specified for a gf180mcu run to be fully defined:\n```\n==============================================================================\n| Metal Stack | Top Metal | MIM Layer | MIM Cap | PHRES | nVt NMOS |\n|=============|===========|===========|===========|=============|============|\n| 1P5M | 6KA | no MIM | no MIM | no PHRES | no nVtNMOS |\n| | 9KA | Option A | 1.5fF/um2 | 1000 ohm/sq | nVtNMOS |\n| | 11KA | Option B | 1.0fF/um2 | 2000 ohm/sq | |\n| | 30KA | | 2fF/um2 | 3000 ohm/sq | |\n==============================================================================\n```\nHas anyone come across this before or has any information about it?", "author": { "id": "1534980349673738311", "name": "lukas_88179", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Lukas", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/2-ADBB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535002786226241636", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-06T19:13:03.209+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "26ML just mean it has 26 Mask Layers.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535003172249014412", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-06T19:14:35.244+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "* 11KA\n* MiM Option B\n* 2 fF/um^2\n* 1000 ohm/sq", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535004067732918506", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-06T19:18:08.744+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Thanks! Did you find that somewhere on the wafer.space site?", "author": { "id": "1534980349673738311", "name": "lukas_88179", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Lukas", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/2-ADBB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535007129876959442", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-06T19:30:18.816+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "No, just from previous discussions here ...", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "1534980349673738311", "name": "lukas_88179", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Lukas", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/2-ADBB4.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535352012021964941", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:20:45.127+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "oh, nvt NMOS is allowed as well.\n\nExtraction for thin oxide ones is maybe still not available; but worse, there are no SPICE yet for thin oxide nvt NMOS.", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "1534980349673738311", "name": "lukas_88179", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Lukas", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/2-ADBB4.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1534999803979632691", "channelId": "1534999803979632691", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535465762494480414", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-08T01:52:45.353+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "There is no thin oxide on GF180MCU, only thick oxide and thicker oxide IIRC", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535466001200578560", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-08T01:53:42.265+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "well, yeah, afaik all the gf180 options never offer more than two thicknesses at once, thus if there's even a difference available, there'll be a \"thin\" and a \"thick\" with local meaning.", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535466368936452277", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-08T01:55:09.94+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think you might be right there.", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535466001200578560", "channelId": "1534999803979632691", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] } ], "messageCount": 9 }