{ "guild": { "id": "1361349522684510449", "name": "wafer.space Community", "iconUrl": "2026-08_media/fb143eaa45770cbb40493d09b625e98b-09FD1.png" }, "channel": { "id": "1408134567491145728", "type": "GuildTextChat", "categoryId": "1409664731760955403", "category": "\uD83D\uDCD0 - Designing", "name": "\uD83D\uDCE6-cob", "topic": "Channel for discussing chip-on-board packaging options for wafer.space bare die." }, "dateRange": { "after": "2026-07-31T23:59:59.999+00:00", "before": "2026-09-01T00:00:00+00:00" }, "exportedAt": "2026-08-11T08:15:54.0202855+00:00", "messages": [ { "id": "1535100917899075664", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T01:42:59.623+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T01:46:59.22+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Hi, I am thinking of doing a 76 pin 0.5x0.5 slot for run 3. To my understanding is that the project template ( https://mithro.github.io/gf180mcu-project-template/ ) isn't authoritative, in the event this doesn't match the expected power placement is there a list/discussion I can refer to for the power pin placement ?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535149194480984075", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T04:54:49.657+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T04:58:50.246+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I was re-reading the entire thread (as one does (to decided if I know enough to offer to design the 76 0.5x0.5 CoB PCB that has yet to exist)) and I am actually a little concerned about the vias in the encapsulation region. \nAre we really sure this is okay ? \n> Open vias should not be used in the encapsulation area of the COB design due to\n> capillary wicking and leakage.\nsource: [PCB design guidelines for chip on board (COB) applications](https://www.pi.infn.it/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/low_cost_cob_guidelines.pdf) - part of the original doc linked at the very start of the channel", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1527453277720154223", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535150809204006953", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T05:01:14.637+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Though I really don't know enough about \"why\" this is a bad idea to judge if this applies to us and if namibj is correct.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535151380346703954", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T05:03:30.808+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Will be independently taking a look at `Chip on board technologies for multichip modules` for the reason tomorrow as it is given as the source for this statement in that document.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535192897886887977", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T07:48:29.361+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Interesting! These came from @Andrew Wingate‘s original 1x1 design, which did have some issues with bubbles as I understand it. But we thought that was most likely due to the vias not being covered by soldermask on top.\nI don’t know if there’s a good reason why they are plated through holes instead of vias.", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535149194480984075", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535194360478568478", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T07:54:18.07+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think the offer of CoB bonding is normally only available if you use the standard template, though that does make it a bit strange that the bonding is the same price for quarter slot as I thought it was ~priced per bond. Worth checking with Tim though if you want to make your own CoB.", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535194954002075688", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T07:56:39.577+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "> I don’t know if there’s a good reason why they are plated through holes instead of vias.\nPartially an inherited artifact if I remember, and also a quirk of KiCad that you can't have vias in a footprint if I remember.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535192897886887977", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535196024128278528", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T08:00:54.715+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I don't think we've gotten any of the quarter slot yet so don't have good pricing info on it yet, and am not certain prices really have to do with number of bonds directly, it's just a helpful tool to get you in the ballpark. \nI'm also not certain we will be accepting *any* custom cob this time? Keep in mind the only custom ones last time shared the wirebonding layout, just had different traces and routing on the pcb.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535194360478568478", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535217872077324339", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T09:27:43.672+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "If there’s no particular reason for them then maybe it would be best to switch to vias - the extra clearance on them is a bit of a pain and it sounds like it would be safer to have no holes.", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535194954002075688", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535288252045594654", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T14:07:23.564+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yeah, they can be taken out. \n\nKeep in mind part of the large clearance was the assumption the dies would be 0.7mm thick. It's still too early to assume that wouldn't be the case moving forward.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535217872077324339", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535294986311049348", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T14:34:09.138+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yeah, if the 76 pin option is part of the \"standard offering\" is a bit unclear. Though frankly I am not opposed to paying the extra 2c per chip bond price increase if the maximum bonds budgeted for is 74 (1x1).", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535194360478568478", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535298799109541968", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T14:49:18.18+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "As far as I’m aware the standard offering is using the project template and standard CoB pad frame only so you only get 56 pins/48 IOs on the quarter slot. But if you need something different then I’m sure it’s worth talking to Tim", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 2, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535302597190094878", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T15:04:23.713+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Again, any change from the standard is likely going to be a whole lot more.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDCA6", "code": "sweat_drops", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f4a6-06B38.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535294986311049348", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535309501496959036", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T15:31:49.828+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "So sad ... I will ask Tim after Tawain to know what extra cost I would be looking at. \nElse I guess I am doing 6 ports for the second generation switch rather than 8.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535302597190094878", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535310851320578098", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T15:37:11.651+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T15:39:39.993+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "In regards to adding vias it seems that there is a real concern is with wire displacements due to rapid changes in rheology during the oven-cure process ( reducing yield ).\nsource: Chip on Board: Technologies for Multichip Modules. Van Nostrand Reinhold, 1994, chapter 7", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535311265189335062", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T15:38:50.325+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "In regards to this issue it seems like it would be problematic for vias under the wires rather than the ones in the corner.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535311664784613498", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T15:40:25.596+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "We've done a lot of work to improve all the processes. \n\nThe PTH didn't seem to be a problem, rather the vias that were tented on the back side (there is no soldermask on the front)\nWe have ordered a number of untented versions, but I have been absent from that process for some time.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83E\uDD14", "code": "thinking", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f914-15707.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535333045085667418", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:05:23.057+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T17:07:48.472+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "> We've done a lot of work to improve all the processes. \nNice, what kind of testing was done? \nDo by any chance have any ongoing experiments for long term corrosion behavior?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535311664784613498", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535334603144040610", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:11:34.527+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "The epoxy is clear so you can see everything. \nAny issues I'm referring to now are likely more cosmetic than anything. \nAgain, any of the bubbles I saw at the end were the amount of air trapped inside of a 0.25mm via. And the only reason you'd ever even know they were there is because it's clear. Everything is encased.", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535333045085667418", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535335008946888715", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:13:11.278+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Got it, so testing by visual inspection \uD83D\uDC4D", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535334603144040610", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1535335543523774514", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:15:18.731+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Please don't understand this wrong way, I am not looking to impose my views on anyone, but in all transparency, the more I read the more I am personally concerned about the presence of holes in the encapsulation region.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535335907823976559", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:16:45.587+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T17:17:27.713+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Currently I am concerned about 2 failure modes, short term: mechanical failure of the bond (lower yield), long term: corrosion", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535336103878336553", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:17:32.33+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "there are no holes", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535336626493071421", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:19:36.931+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "We have also been doing electrical testing", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535336658029776987", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:19:44.45+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T17:20:16.416+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Seems I am confused then ? The via center ? Can you unstupid me ?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1535336657748762694", "url": "2026-08_media/image-6D9B4.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 3812 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535336103878336553", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535337766257434655", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:24:08.672+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're referring to as holes. \nThe die and the wires are all encapsulated. \nParts of the pcb are exposed because it's the pcb. There's a large mezzanine and caps on the back", "author": { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535338114657292408", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:25:31.737+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T17:25:46.133+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I am currently using the following definition: \nhole = any opening though the substrate (pcb) in which could form a contact between the epoxy and the air", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535337766257434655", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535338873310421002", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T17:28:32.614+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Based on this definition, do we have holes in the encapsulation region ?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 4 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535337766257434655", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535351299149791302", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:17:55.165+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Note the versions with soldermask between the pads and the die are the newer ones I did. As far as I’m aware Andrew hasn’t looked at those yet and they haven’t been made/tested. The 1x1 and the previous rev of the 1x0p5 have no solder mask in the region between the pads and the die - that led to vias that were closed on the back side but not the top side.", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535352283175460935", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:21:49.775+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2026-08-07T18:42:04.798+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "On the CoBs I designed - I don’t really have any expertise here, I just wanted to help out as best I could as wafer space had offered me space on the early runs for free and Andrew was short on time. It sounds like changing those holes to vias would be wise - I’ll do that when I get chance!", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83C\uDF89", "code": "tada", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f389-5C738.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535355104037838949", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:33:02.321+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "The cost complication is with the bond house setup and test-run-overhead costs of setting up and verifying the custom/new bonding does actually work.", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC40", "code": "eyes", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f440-6C64D.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535294986311049348", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535355288704520203", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:33:46.349+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Oh, well, the epoxy to the top surface of the glob is AIUI less thickness.", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1535338114657292408", "channelId": "1408134567491145728", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535355800552349716", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:35:48.383+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "My understanding of the experienced bubble complication was with holes being tented on only the backside (where the mezzazine is) and being open on the front (where the die is), which had the air bubbles from inside escaping up into the epoxy.", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "756011607603019777", "name": "anfroholic", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Andrew Wingate", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/67bd670a335a2f955fb2ded57088a2cb-675B3.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535358542343573535", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T18:46:42.077+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That would be great, I personally believe not having an opening is the better call.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-08_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": 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"inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535364727167783036", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-07T19:11:16.654+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think I'm more worried about tented vias than fully open ones at least if they're thin enough for the epoxy to not just drip down; though it already stays in a glob up top anyways, so yeah.....\n\nFor reliability IMO we should at least ask if they have a generic CTE-vaguely-matched loaded version available given that I don' think they'd require actually different processing beyond dosing the epoxy from the other dispenser.\nMight be contingent on the tracability serial being included, though; in case they fall down after globbing and are all mixed up between projects somehow.\n\nAlso while you're at it and worrying about those things, maybe see if the die bottom could have thermal management improved for allowing a higher TDP.", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", 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"Default", "timestamp": "2026-08-08T16:05:46.722+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "ah was just going to ask about the rest of Run1 COBs. I guess still working out kinks in the process?", "author": { "id": "384390069412429834", "name": "polyfractal", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "BreakingTaps", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/8d8c1d8b8ad51d6cdb1a47512c39b297-42908.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1535927777327583273", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-08-09T08:28:38.273+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yes, I have been meaning to chat with you about your parts and how you wanted to proceed.", "author": { "id": "169786952432746498", "name": "mithro_", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tim 'mithro' Ansell", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-08_media/9679bb77da48d47c905b398d98a83780-75B68.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": 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