{ "guild": { "id": "1361349522684510449", "name": "wafer.space Community", "iconUrl": "2025-11_media/fb143eaa45770cbb40493d09b625e98b-09FD1.png" }, "channel": { "id": "1441431342335393884", "type": "GuildPublicThread", "categoryId": "1409664261952639098", "category": "tinytapeout", "name": "This was a challenging one! 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"1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441825023248695368", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T16:17:53.356+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Nice, how did you guys go about changing the default cell library ?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441852630749151293", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:07:35.497+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-11-22T18:08:06.471+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@Essen theoretically it should be just `\"STD_CELL_LIBRARY\": \"gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu9t5v0\",` in `config.json`\nBUT there is a bug in the PDK that TT is using, so @htamas had to make a patch: https://github.com/TinyTapeout/tt-gds-action/compare/main...rejunity:tt-gds-action-gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu9t5v0:main", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, { "id": "543162393413287956", "name": "h.tamas", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "htamas", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/1-B2132.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441854445972492288", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:14:48.28+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-11-22T18:20:30.182+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "So basically you have to\n1) clone https://github.com/TinyTapeout/tt-gds-action apply the patch\n1.5) add a tag on your patched gds-action repo, I used `ttgf0p2_9t`\n2) route your gds.yaml to use patched gds-action repo. something like that: https://github.com/rejunity/tt08-vga-drop/commit/2ac440a4bd84136deccb49f6ed56c4ded1a0a8b7\n3) add \"STD_CELL_LIBRARY\": \"gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu9t5v0\", to your `config.json`\n4) change Makefile so that Gate Level tests use correct cell library too: https://github.com/rejunity/tt08-vga-drop/commit/22135b09cfd3b970ce26098b89df31547c557192\n\nand you should be done", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": 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"avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc4d", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f44d-27259.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441854899875745843", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:16:36.499+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "(but loose in area)", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441855011838759112", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:17:03.193+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "for some definition of fun...", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1441854891311108286", "channelId": "1441431342335393884", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441855102377005076", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:17:24.779+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-11-22T18:17:36.968+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I think we all here share a common twisted definition.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "1004638051047309393", "name": "partyblob", "code": "partyblob", "isAnimated": true, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1004638051047309393-7C935.gif" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441855466396319804", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:18:51.568+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Haha, maybe I should. \nFor now I don't have any timing issues, at least, assuming the output io doesn't go faster than 50MHz ? \ud83e\udd37", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1441854860197888152", "channelId": "1441431342335393884", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83e\udd37", "code": "person_shrugging", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f937-19884.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441855575964258457", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:19:17.691+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I don't think this affects IO cells, only logic/dff", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441855744310906970", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:19:57.828+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yes, just to say that my timing is fine, and I am bottlenecked by the IO, so I have no motivation to up the frequency.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441855957146800138", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:20:48.572+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "We need faster, open source IO so bad \ud83e\udee0", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83e\udee0", "code": "\ud83e\udee0", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1fae0-D00A5.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441856090945097900", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:21:20.472+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Anyways, off to lunch \ud83d\udc4b see you around", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc4d", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc4b", "code": "wave", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f44b-8A059.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441856164923965502", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:21:38.11+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yeah, for MAC-array/SystolicArray you bound to be IO bound, I suppose", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441856246121631774", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:21:57.469+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-11-22T18:28:12.348+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I added some \"noob\" input caches to my implementation, some time ago", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441856360139460681", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:22:24.653+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "https://github.com/rejunity/tiny-asic-1_58bit-matrix-mul", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc40", "code": "eyes", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f440-6C64D.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441856531137040596", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:23:05.422+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [ { "id": "1441856530717606122", "url": "2025-11_media/image-58839.png", "fileName": "image.png", "fileSizeBytes": 68767 } ], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441857018838122537", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:25:01.699+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "And septenary version: https://github.com/rejunity/tt09-septenary-matrix-mul\nUnfortunately never got fab'd due to eFabless going bonk", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441864820407402658", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T18:56:01.738+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Any plans on submitting it to a future shuttle ?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1441857018838122537", "channelId": "1441431342335393884", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441874233490669658", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T19:33:25.992+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Yes, for the next sky130 shuttle I would like to implementa input data cache with @tnt SRAM blocks.\nI am also very tempted to see how large of an array could fit onto the whole wafer.space chip... maybe even buy a wafer for that \ud83d\ude09 but I don't think I will have time for the first shuttle.", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\ud83e\udd23", "code": "rofl", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f923-5854E.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1441864820407402658", "channelId": "1441431342335393884", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\ude09", "code": "wink", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f609-9EC67.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441875347690881155", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T19:37:51.638+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Sounds like more fun incoming \ud83d\ude42 \nHaha, an entire wafer, I would like to see you guys do that.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": 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Instead wafer.space has an option to get uncut wafer for $2000 with 40 chips of your design (but someone needs to cut and package them \ud83d\ude09)\nbut still not a bad deal because that gives approximately 128 TinyTapeout tiles worth of an area.", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc40", "code": "eyes", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f440-6C64D.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\ude09", "code": "wink", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f609-9EC67.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441880236152066296", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T19:57:17.138+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-11-22T19:57:32.211+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Back of envelope calculation gives me around 10..20 GOPs (something like 16x20 mac array) for a whole chip on 180nm still far from 1TOps \ud83d\ude42", "author": { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\ude42", "code": "slight_smile", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f642-83E8A.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441880835169976350", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T19:59:39.955+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@EmbeddedKen this is for you : \n> get uncut wafer for $2000 with 40 chips of your design (but someone needs to cut and package them \ud83d\ude09)", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "190171097910607873", "name": "embeddedken", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "EmbeddedKen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/ad7d8fa834bc46a9826d4dd4ce7cf7d7-4D16D.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\ude09", "code": "wink", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f609-9EC67.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441881044138852502", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:00:29.777+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "How did I miss that \ud83d\udc40 \nDamn, looks like I also need a die bonding machine now.", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "538398807986274304", "name": "rzioma", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "ReJ aka Renaldas Zioma", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/f2ec4a3c78aa64de4ebf8efb563cc011-91657.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1441876190053924944", "channelId": "1441431342335393884", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc40", "code": "eyes", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f440-6C64D.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441881305364041839", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:01:32.058+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "How are you planning on doing the cutting and packaging ? Does one of you own the die bonding machine or know someone that does ?", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441881552165408888", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:02:30.9+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Well the 2000$ option is only as an addition to the 7000$ slot.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441881774266253404", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:03:23.853+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "So it's just to get a neat souvenir ... or if you want to do wafer level probing I guess.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441883417020203114", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:09:55.516+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "So sad, you got my hopes up there for a second. \ud83e\udd23", "author": { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\ud83e\udd23", "code": "rofl", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f923-5854E.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1441884000544227511", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:12:14.639+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "There is a fixed number of slots in the reticle ... so the price is pretty much production_cost / num_slots ... 2k$ is the cost to run one more wafer through the flow.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1441884246024261733", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2025-11-22T20:13:13.166+00:00", "timestampEdited": "2025-11-22T20:13:46.1+00:00", "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "The production costs are (simplified) maskset_cost + n_wafer * wafer_processing_cost and the mask costs is the big chunks and the part which has a limited number of slots.", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\ud83d\udc4d", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2025-11_media/1f44d-27259.svg" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "509798510170865675", "name": "essen__", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Essen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2025-11_media/80e086280c9caadd9c05998c3254c9a9-25B3D.png" } ] } ], 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